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Post by Happy User on Dec 21, 2014 4:22:24 GMT
Imagine that you walk into a hardware store to buy some screws. Screws are cheap. So you ask for help, the staff is friendly, but after a thorough search you find out that they do not have the kind of screws you need. So you ask the store attendant if he knows of any other hardware stores in the area that might have them, and he gets angry and walks away, "buy the screws we have or leave!". A nearby customer hears the whole thing, and tells you that Tim's hardware down the street has the screws youre looking for - but while you are talking the manager comes over, interrupts, and throws you both out of the store FOREVER You have just been banned by ICEFILMS for sharing links to "competitors" No hardware store would do this to you... no legitamate business either.. But what is icefilms? I thought ICEFILMS was a community of like minded people - trying to *stick it to the man* by freely sharing links to download movies. I THOUGHT that ICEFILMS was about FREEDOM of information, FREEDOM of expression, and COMMUNITY
but... Freedom and community do not have competitors. Freedom and community do not ban even their enemies, let only their faithful users. It is really starting to feel like ICEFILMS doesnt care about its users. Icefilms is not about file sharing. Its not about community. Its not about internet freedom or piracy as a value. Because if ICEFILMS were about these things they would be more open to criticism and discussion, they would embrace link sharing, they would promote and not ban those who direct users to other sites when ICEFILMS is down. So what is ICEFILMS really about? Honestly I dont know. I wish it was about freedom, filesharing, community, etc. Has ICEFILMS been beaten by "the man"? Or has it become "the man" by banning even their friendliest critics?MODS, ADMINS, it is up to you to define ICEFILMS for us, and to show us what this site is really about. PS In the interests of freedom and community, I respectfully ask you (the admins) to allow people to continue to post in this thread. Deleting the thread, banning me, or even locking it would only undermine the core values of the filesharing community and your users.
PPS
I really hope I am wrong about all of this! Maybe you have some other reasoning for not allowing "competing links" in the forums. I could be jumping to all the wrong conclusions, but someone has to play the devil's advocate, so even if I am totally wrong, I think it was worth it to raise the issue, and give you guys a place to explain to us what ICEfilms is really about
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Post by Russtronic™ on Dec 21, 2014 5:57:54 GMT
As I have said many times already it is our practice not to allow mention of other sites as we would be blamed if something were to happen. For to many hours to contemplate the crew and I have been testing servers all over the world. (I have been in some places I will never admit to!) And not 20 minutes ago I fought off a Full On Hijack.... All I was trying to do was look at the TOS. Now I give you some credit for your mildly erudite post. If we had posted that, you would have used the same talent with words, to blame us for what happened. No Names, No Blames.
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Post by Repdaddy on Dec 21, 2014 7:00:43 GMT
icefilms.freeforums.net/thread/16/providers Anybody that wants to champion the notion of sticking it to the man should go build there own site and do their own sticking. After you build a successful model, good for you, stay there and watch all other sites fade away in the shadow of this perfect thing you daydream of. What kind of complete douche enters a person's home, tells them the drapes are wrong, the carpet is ugly, insists they are right about it, and does something the host asked them not to do? What kind of person can get kicked out of that house and come back to complain? What kind of person sticks up for that douche? Seriously, we have every right to ban you or anyone we choose. We have patience and couth. We do not randomly ban or lock threads. The only time that happens is when morons keep trying to tell us how to run our house. Like it or leave.
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Post by LoL'ing on Dec 21, 2014 13:37:08 GMT
Ummm..whats made Ice so sucessful has been its abillity to EVOLVE w/the times...ImO much like trolls do in a community chat,they push the envelope as to whats acceptable an reasonable to the public/community at large..Our beloved "Interwebs" is yet still in its infancy, (as so many of us arrogantly 4get)and there will be MANY Challenges ahead to keep OUR "Interwebs" public & Free. As many in our community here an global lhope the "web" is nurtured an supported much like our Public Libraries across our world. An yet there seems to be some level of frustration 'tween users an admins...I am not taking sides in the "great debate" of how ICE Shud be run,handled,maintained or cleansed of toxic members/users (this has been goin on for almost 6-7 yrs now, everytime Ice has faced challenges, Ive seen much since my 1st login an link postings in mid/late Jan. 2009). Ice's vast internet prominence an longevity is at times imo its weakness..There are NEW Users daily, yup, for the 1st time too...I can recall my excitement when I found ICE, No lag, no bs spam ez gui...made me feel like the MAN on my good Ole pentium P4 Desktop/box w/512 mb's of RAM. We need to remember that theres users YOUNG &OLD, discovering and liberated at using ICE For the 1st time...Ever yo.. Thats how long we been at this here folks...We were the youngins pushin things,putting our collective thoughts an efforts together to aquiesse to the hurdles of an everchanging landscape the "interwebs" .An yet EVERYTIME ICE went down (an it was bumpy at times as I recall ,ICE Would be down for days ata time an we hoped an waited & there she was ,ressurrected ,Again. with suhtle changes & improvements to our SITE....There was no TWITTER Then ...I was Lucky if I didnt lose my CURSOR from that fucking HORRID DivX bug w/DivX web player an have to Reboot or clear my cookies & cache in my Firefox to use my mouse again,cuz ICE Didnt support CHROME ,IE Nor Safari then. Yet we endured..A And we will ENDURE, Only cuz of this communities ABILLITY to EVOLVE, an be tech savvy etc,etc....So it hurts me TO SEE ADMINS, Lay into a USER9As who knows if new or old smart or developementally disabled.... An tell them to GTFO If ya dnt like How we do shit here..its our crib so ,kindly STFU Or STFU//.LoL..We have all been there,worried,sad,scared or even panicked wenbour ICE was FUBAR...I encourage OLD TIMERS To be patient w/ICE users NOT INSULT them <but take time to bring them upto speed..WHAT KIND OF DOUCHE Builds a house, Invites guests,an when the ROOF CAVES IN , gets FREEKIN PISSED OFF at the guest the house was built for. SoI guess the long short of it is dnt discourage ANY DIALOGUE Bout ICE when shit gets ruff admins, you signed up fer it folks. And from turmoil many solutions an innovations have been pioneered to improve our beloved WEB..So dont beso short or passive aggrsesive w/folks who loveIce an want it all to flows eamlessly just as yall do when theres issues....ya mite end up missing out/discouraging future progress insight/innovations that changed the wey we do things
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Post by Whistlin' Wizard on Dec 21, 2014 14:21:59 GMT
Okay so i have been reading posts over the last few days and there are a few that i just shake my head at. There are a few people that seem to know what needs to be done, and yet decide to criticize the crew from IceFilms. Really.... Since some of you are so smart and know what to do, instead of criticizing the icefilms crew go make your own website. People are saying they don't care about us. Really.... If the icefilms crew didn't care, do you think they would of setup this forum to keep us updated? I think not. So instead of being negative and ignorant, we should all say thank you and give encouragement. They are busting their butts to get things going again. So seriously guys and gals if you have nothing positive to say in regards of the situation, just don't say anything at all.
So to the Icefilms crew. THANK YOU for all that you do.
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Post by sab on Dec 21, 2014 14:33:49 GMT
Hey man, I agree with the OP on this one heavily. You can't use the 'house' analogy because no one is telling the host the drapes are ugly, but he's rather saying, your attitude is ugly, but your house is great. Sure you have every right to ban whomever, go right ahead and do so at your leisure. Haven't you guys ever heard the term "Don't bite the hand that feeds you?"
We're the ones coming to your site, generating you revenue for the site.
I'm a long time user of icefilms. But by removing and silencing any mention of other similar sites, it shows to us that you guys are afraid of losing your visitors. No offense to the admins, but you should be embracing your competitors as it will display an act of confidence. Don't be so disgusting guys!
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For the Love of All Things ICE
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Post by For the Love of All Things ICE on Dec 21, 2014 14:35:08 GMT
Been here for too many years to count, have seen the site come under attack from every angle, as well as running the usual gambit of coding probs and crazy admins, and the fact that these guys surpassed the "Mega" disaster, worked day and night around a full on F-U from Uncle Sam, gives this site and it's admins, mods, ul'rs, link hunters all the web cred they need. Keep up the amazing work guys, can't wait for the reboot, cheers!
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Post by cerabus on Dec 21, 2014 18:02:11 GMT
ok, so Icefilms has been down for a few days ... get over it people, jese, what a bunch of whiny, troll like, Losers you guys all are.
I have been enjoying icefilms since its inception pretty much. Its a FREE service. The guys who put all the work into it use their own time and money to keep it running. Most of you trolls think its a right, its not, its a privilege that they are giving you.
I would imagine if the people who run icefilms can get it back up and running they will, if they can't, well it was a good run.
I just wanted the admins to know that most of us really appreciate all the work you put into it for the benefit of us all.
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Post by SCAWFACE on Dec 21, 2014 18:16:42 GMT
reading every post above and i can't help but to agree with some of what everybody's saying...i personally like Icefilms a lot myself...it's easy to use and for the most part stays current and up to date...i am surprised Ice isn't directing us anywhere to hold us over and keep us from going to all these other sites...and while some are kind of cool and unique they just aren't Icefilms...personally I'll keep coming back and checking to see if you guys do in fact get back up and running...regardless what happens i too want to say thank you for all your hard work...good luck guys/girls!
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Post by Russtronic™ on Dec 21, 2014 18:20:27 GMT
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Post by I Hate Whiners on Dec 21, 2014 18:29:33 GMT
ok, so Icefilms has been down for a few days ... get over it people, jese, what a bunch of whiny, troll like, Losers you guys all are. I have been enjoying icefilms since its inception pretty much. Its a FREE service. The guys who put all the work into it use their own time and money to keep it running. Most of you trolls think its a right, its not, its a privilege that they are giving you. I would imagine if the people who run icefilms can get it back up and running they will, if they can't, well it was a good run. I just wanted the admins to know that most of us really appreciate all the work you put into it for the benefit of us all. Well said. After reading the OP, I was going to mention what you just did. Icefilms is someone's site that they have worked hard at and probably put a lot of money into so people can watch movies, TV and the like for free. If you have a complaint, PM an admin, otherwise, keep it to yourself. Nice hardware store analogy, but it has no meaning here as the rules are the rules, period. If you do not like it, make a post with a suggestion to change it, or PM an admin and ask them to change it, but don't whine or bitch about it. Nobody has the right to complain about having nothing to watch and for Icefilms to hurry up and get a server soon. You have a few options... 1) Get a life and go outside. 2) Pay for something to watch. 3) Find another site. I would like to thank all those involved with Icefilms for their time and effort in putting up such a good media site.
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Post by Whooptiedoo on Dec 23, 2014 18:32:41 GMT
Thx for da good Work IceFilms
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Post by guus on Dec 23, 2014 22:40:32 GMT
Winers you have everywhere... thanks guys for all the efeorts you put in let the ones who complain for what it is... ill salut you!
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Post by LordHoban on Dec 24, 2014 2:48:46 GMT
When the site returns, the rest of this will not matter. I have tried perusing other sites and they are all a mess, in their organization. The only one that comes close is a site that is now dead (well, kind of undead, as someone else has resurrected it), but even that site is a poor substitute for all things movies and shows (they are better for other things like games/apps and rarer movies/shows). But I always go to icefilms first, because the site is sooo easy to peruse and find things.
With that said, the rules are not unreasonable. It is in poor taste to post the competition. Common decency says you don't do that, unless the owners of icefilms allow it. As some have said before, if you don't like it, you can go to all the crappy sites out there and leave icefilms to people who genuinely appreciate it.
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... viva icefilms ...
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Post by ... viva icefilms ... on Dec 24, 2014 3:31:19 GMT
EDITED: QUOTE AND NO RESPONSE.
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